Hi, I keep getting the following message when trying to upload the P35L form:

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Hi, I keep getting the following message when trying to upload the P35L form:

  1. eoinpro February 4, 2016
    The following field failed validation: Employee PRSI. Employee is not liable for PRSI based on class selected. In the following record: 1386819HA,. In the following file : P35L-Jan-Dec-2015 (3).p35.
  2. eoinpro February 4, 2016
    I've gone into the employee and tried changing his prsi class but it won't accept the other options available either and "S" is for directors which he is not.
  3. eoinpro February 4, 2016
    He's Portuguese - would this have anything to do with it? I have a tax credit cert for him etc and there was no problem last year when uploading from Thesaurus Payroll so I'm not too sure where to go from here? Any help would be great. Cheers, Eoin.

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Peter Connor ⋅ Staff February 4, 2016
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Hi Eoin. Sure I’ll get John to have a look at this he’s specialises in the payroll. He’ll be a bit getting back to you. So work away and you’ll get a mail with his answer. You’ll be able to chat then and ask other questions you have.

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  1. eoinpro February 4, 2016
    Great - thanks!!
  2. Peter Connor February 4, 2016
    Hi Eoin,
    Make sure that you select "No" for the "Is this person a director?" dropdown, otherwise, it will force the "S" PRSI class. Note that if you had "S" as the selected PRSI class for all of last year, there may be a liability on the company to pay employer's PRSI that was not paid.
    Did you import his tax details using a P2C file, or input the tax details manually?
  3. Peter Connor February 4, 2016
    We'll also investigate the P35L validation message that you received from Revenue.
  4. eoinpro February 4, 2016
    Hi John,
    I have him down as class A and he was imported from a P2C file and he's not down as a director either.
    Cheers,
    Eoin.
  5. Peter Connor February 4, 2016
    Hi Eoin,
    I can see that Jesus is recorded as A0 in the P35L file created. Let me investigate more why there is a validation failure on uploading the P35L file.
  6. Peter Connor February 4, 2016
    Hi Eoin,
    You recorded 2 wages for Jesus in December - one on the 8th and one on the 23rd. Is this correct?
  7. eoinpro February 4, 2016
    Hi John,
    Yes - that's correct.
    Cheers,
    Eoin.
  8. Peter Connor February 4, 2016
    Thanks Eoin,
    We will need to update our servers with some new code over the weekend to fix your issue. There's a bug where the P35L might not include all PRSI classes for an employee if they were paid more than once in a single pay period with different PRSI classes affecting both. I'll let you know when we've updated our software and you can upload the P35L then.
  9. eoinpro February 4, 2016
    No worries - thanks John!!
  10. Peter Connor February 4, 2016
    Hi Eoin,
    After investigating the issue over the weekend, there isn't a way that Bullet can generate the P35L, because the 2 payments in December for Jesus had different PRSI classes associated with them, and the P35L doesn't allow for multiple PRSI classes for the same pay period.
    Here's what I'd suggest:
    Delete one of the payment for Jesus in December, and edit the other one to be the total value of the payments deceived in December (€1,535 + €1,853.99). This will have the effect of increasing the amount of PRSI that Jesus owns (because this higher pay will place him in a higher PRSI class). This will change the PRSI liability for the P30. If you have already filed it, then file the P35L and you should be promtped for the additional charge.
    Note that we have changed Bullet to stop multiple payments for the same pay period being entered for an employee, to avoid this case in the future.
    Let me know if you have any questions.
    John
  11. eoinpro February 4, 2016
    Hi John,
    So I'll have to pay more for Jesus and the two other staff that I paid twice in December because my payroll software has a bug that doesn't allow that?
    That doesn't seem right.
    Cheers,
    Eoin.
  12. Peter Connor February 4, 2016
    Hi Eoin,
    You won't be paying more PRSI for Jesus that he should be paying. The problem is that he was not charged enough PRSI initially, because his wages were split across 2 entries for December, and the 2nd payslip put him into a higher PRSI class than he was in with the first payslip alone. We've put in place code to block this from happening again. You won't be paying more PRSI for Jesus than you should.
    John.
  13. eoinpro February 4, 2016
    Hi John,
    It won't allow me to change the payments because I've already uploaded the P30.
    Can you let me know how to change them? My plan is to put the payment into January because the next payment after it won't go out until early Feb.
    Thanks,
    Eoin.
  14. Peter Connor February 4, 2016
    Hi Eoin,
    If you go to the taxes section, click on the 'Paid' tab and go to the P30 return in question. Click 'Mark as Unpaid' on the right-hand side. You can then edit wages made in that period, and afterwards mark the period as paid again.
    John.
  15. eoinpro February 4, 2016
    Great - I'll do that, thank you.
    Cheers,
    Eoin.

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